{"id":1316,"date":"2011-09-06T21:02:57","date_gmt":"2011-09-06T21:02:57","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.virginiaknight.org.uk\/vhkssinging\/?p=1316"},"modified":"2015-10-07T15:47:18","modified_gmt":"2015-10-07T15:47:18","slug":"proms-57-and-60-mozart-piano-concertos-and-big-symphonies","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.virginiaknight.org.uk\/vhkssinging\/2011\/09\/06\/proms-57-and-60-mozart-piano-concertos-and-big-symphonies\/","title":{"rendered":"Proms 57 and 60: Mozart piano concertos and big symphonies"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Some others in the family went to Prom 57 on Saturday, this time going on spec and standing in the gallery.\u00a0 The Tonhalle Orchestra from Zurich under David Zinman began with the premiere of <em>Cold Heat<\/em> by Anders Hillborg, which didn&#8217;t really inspire much reaction for or against.\u00a0 Then Maria Jo\u00e3o Pires was the soloist in Mozart&#8217;s B flat concerto K595 (my daughter heard her play another Mozart concerto not long ago).\u00a0 Mozart doesn&#8217;t come round so much at the Proms these days, probably because the smaller forces now usually used to perform his music aren&#8217;t so well suited to the Albert Hall.\u00a0 So this performance sounded good but rather distant.<\/p>\n<p>After the interval came the <em>Eroica<\/em>.\u00a0 My family weren&#8217;t so impressed with this performance, which seemed to them not to be very engaged with the music, despite some interesting ornamentation in the slow movement.\u00a0 But reviewers were more impressed; here are those from the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.guardian.co.uk\/music\/2011\/aug\/28\/prom-57-tonhalle-zinman-review\" onclick=\"__gaTracker('send', 'event', 'outbound-article', 'http:\/\/www.guardian.co.uk\/music\/2011\/aug\/28\/prom-57-tonhalle-zinman-review', 'Guardian');\"><em>Guardian<\/em><\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.independent.co.uk\/arts-entertainment\/classical\/reviews\/proms-5657-gersteinbbcsobychkovpirestonhallezinman-royal-albert-hall-55-55-2346116.html\" onclick=\"__gaTracker('send', 'event', 'outbound-article', 'http:\/\/www.independent.co.uk\/arts-entertainment\/classical\/reviews\/proms-5657-gersteinbbcsobychkovpirestonhallezinman-royal-albert-hall-55-55-2346116.html', 'Independent');\"><em>Independent<\/em><\/a> and <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.telegraph.co.uk\/culture\/music\/proms\/8731195\/BBC-Proms-2011-Sinfonye-and-Tonhalle-Orch-Albert-Hall.html\" onclick=\"__gaTracker('send', 'event', 'outbound-article', 'http:\/\/www.telegraph.co.uk\/culture\/music\/proms\/8731195\/BBC-Proms-2011-Sinfonye-and-Tonhalle-Orch-Albert-Hall.html', 'Telegraph');\">Telegraph<\/a>.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>A few days later some of us were back to hear the Netherlands Radio Symphony Orchestra and Jaap  van Zweden with another Mozart piano concerto, this time K503 in C played by David Fray.\u00a0 Much the same comment about distance as with the other concerto, though I also found the performance a little bland.<\/p>\n<p>After the interval came Bruckner 8. This was the first time I&#8217;d ever heard a Bruckner symphony in concert.\u00a0 When I was doing Music A-level I could give you a neat little  description of each symphony, ready for trotting out on the exam paper,  but I also found that I didn&#8217;t particularly get his music (apart from the motets, which I discovered later).\u00a0 I thought I might understand better after hearing a symphony live, but it didn&#8217;t work; I enjoyed parts but found the piece had its longueurs.\u00a0 Was this my fault, or that of Bruckner, or of the performance?\u00a0 Probably mine, because I gather the tempi were in fact on the fast side!\u00a0 I know there is more to Bruckner than what I experience, because I keep being told that a really great performance is like meeting God (though the people who say this usually turn out to be convinced atheists).\u00a0 As the hall appeared pretty full I wondered guiltily whether I&#8217;d deprived a Bruckner-lover of the chance to hear this performance.\u00a0 Anyway, I shan&#8217;t write him off yet; maybe I should try a different symphony next time.<\/p>\n<p>I found out there were at least three people I knew who were at this concert and would have liked to have had a chat. In future I&#8217;ll try to publicise my concert attendance in advance on Facebook at least.<\/p>\n<p>Here are reviews of Prom 60 from the <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.guardian.co.uk\/music\/2011\/aug\/31\/prom60-netherlands-rpo-zweden-review\" onclick=\"__gaTracker('send', 'event', 'outbound-article', 'http:\/\/www.guardian.co.uk\/music\/2011\/aug\/31\/prom60-netherlands-rpo-zweden-review', 'Guardian');\">Guardian<\/a><\/em>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.independent.co.uk\/arts-entertainment\/classical\/reviews\/prom-60-fraynetherlands-rpozweden-royal-albert-hall-2346885.html\" onclick=\"__gaTracker('send', 'event', 'outbound-article', 'http:\/\/www.independent.co.uk\/arts-entertainment\/classical\/reviews\/prom-60-fraynetherlands-rpozweden-royal-albert-hall-2346885.html', 'Independent');\"><em>Independent<\/em><\/a> and <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.telegraph.co.uk\/culture\/music\/proms\/8734659\/BBC-Proms-2011-Netherlands-RPO-Albert-Hall-review.html\" onclick=\"__gaTracker('send', 'event', 'outbound-article', 'http:\/\/www.telegraph.co.uk\/culture\/music\/proms\/8734659\/BBC-Proms-2011-Netherlands-RPO-Albert-Hall-review.html', 'Telegraph');\">Telegraph<\/a><\/em>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Some others in the family went to Prom 57 on Saturday, this time going on spec and standing in the gallery.\u00a0 The Tonhalle Orchestra from Zurich under David Zinman began with the premiere of Cold Heat by Anders Hillborg, which &hellip; <a href=\"http:\/\/www.virginiaknight.org.uk\/vhkssinging\/2011\/09\/06\/proms-57-and-60-mozart-piano-concertos-and-big-symphonies\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[10],"tags":[89,301,523,518,519,522,520,165,521,138,687,517],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.virginiaknight.org.uk\/vhkssinging\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1316"}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.virginiaknight.org.uk\/vhkssinging\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.virginiaknight.org.uk\/vhkssinging\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.virginiaknight.org.uk\/vhkssinging\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.virginiaknight.org.uk\/vhkssinging\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1316"}],"version-history":[{"count":9,"href":"http:\/\/www.virginiaknight.org.uk\/vhkssinging\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1316\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":3851,"href":"http:\/\/www.virginiaknight.org.uk\/vhkssinging\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1316\/revisions\/3851"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.virginiaknight.org.uk\/vhkssinging\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1316"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.virginiaknight.org.uk\/vhkssinging\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1316"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.virginiaknight.org.uk\/vhkssinging\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1316"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}